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Ray G3XLG

Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.

Why...?

We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
problem please?

I just bought a kit & accessories direct from Elecraft 2 weeks ago, it was
delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
Europe.

Just interested .

73

Ray G3XLG

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Phil Hystad-3

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

One reason is that sending a package in CONUS (continental US) is a lot easier and generally cheaper then sending it to other countries or even to Alaska or Hawaii.

On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:

> I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
> private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.
>
> Why...?
>
> We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
> problem please?
>
>
>
> I just bought a kit & accessories direct from Elecraft 2 weeks ago, it was
> delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
> Europe.
>
>
>
> Just interested .
>
> 73
>
> Ray G3XLG
>
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Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

If something goes wrong, it's a lot harder to set things right. I sold
a radio into Germany, and never was paid. If I could recall the
details, I might have followed up in a few weeks when we're there, but...
73, doug

On 02-Jun-11 16:12, Phil Hystad wrote:

> One reason is that sending a package in CONUS (continental US) is a lot easier and generally cheaper then sending it to other countries or even to Alaska or Hawaii.
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
>
>> I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
>> private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.
>>
>> Why...?
>>
>> We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
>> problem please?
>>
>>
>>
>> I just bought a kit& accessories direct from Elecraft 2 weeks ago, it was
>> delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
>> Europe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just interested .
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ray G3XLG
>>
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Rose

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Payment certainly isn't a problem with PayPal, but
without a PayPal account it can be problematic.
Foreign ... to the US ... money orders or even bank
checks are extremely difficult to process. For example,
a check drawn on a Panama bank would have cost
$75 to deposit into her account.

It's also likely related to a general lack of knowledge
about overseas packaging and how to fill out the
customs forms. The blanks on the forms are small
and difficult to write in. There are two forms to be
used, depending on the size of the package and a
few other variables.

I do the shipping for Rose and she receives orders
from all over the world, so I've become reasonably
familiar with the procedure, but it's still a "task".

The average transit time seems to be from two to as
much as four weeks. Israel is the exception. It can take
several months for a package to be delivered there.

Probably more than you wanted to know ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Jim Wiley-2

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance. In our case, sellers
seem to be completely unaware that Alaska and Hawaii are part of the 50
states. They think we are a foreign country. Some of them don't even
understand that we use the same money! We have all the same services,
the post office goes everywhere, standard US banks, Paypal, etc.
Fedex and UPS have service to most locations (not so much in the true
bush) including both air and ground delivery.

It is actually easier to convince some people that I live in a 2-story
igloo and mush a dog team to work, which they love to believe
:-) than the real facts, which are that I live in a 4200 Sq
Ft home of standard frame construction and drive an Audi A8 on the
freeway when I go shopping. OK, the A8 is 12 years old, but still . .
. Heck, we got satellite TV , Starbucks, Gap stores, TGI Fridays, an
IMAX theatre, and even a Costco store or three.

- Jim, KL7CC
Anchorage

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Jan Erik Holm

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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I can not understand how going down to the local post
office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
but then again what do I know?

/ Jim SM2EKM
----------------
On 2011-06-02 18:12, Phil Hystad wrote:

Jim Brown-10

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
> I can not understand how going down to the local post
> office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
> shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
> but then again what do I know?

Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something that many of us
would choose to do, especially with something as delicate and valuable
as a ham transceiver. That's a big part of why UPS and Fed Ex exist.

In my case, the major reason I don't want to sell internationally is the
matter of customs and duties, with the associated paperwork. Here it's
mostly ignorance of what is needed, what the procedures are, etc. I
might look at it differently with a ham I knew as the buyer. Nothing
parochial beyond ignorance. :)

73, Jim K9YC

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ha4zd

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

USPS is great to buy goods from US. Reasonable cost and I have never had
any issues with them. For transceivers this should be a tracked package.
UPS is more costly but also good.

István Szabó
HA4ZD

On 6/2/2011 7:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
>> I can not understand how going down to the local post
>> office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
>> shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
>> but then again what do I know?
> Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something that many of us
> would choose to do, especially with something as delicate and valuable
> as a ham transceiver. That's a big part of why UPS and Fed Ex exist.
>
> In my case, the major reason I don't want to sell internationally is the
> matter of customs and duties, with the associated paperwork. Here it's
> mostly ignorance of what is needed, what the procedures are, etc. I
> might look at it differently with a ham I knew as the buyer. Nothing
> parochial beyond ignorance. :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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N5GE

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

Here in the USA I always choose USPS Priority Mail if given the option. It
usually costs about the same as UPS Ground and is always delivered within two
business days of being shipped. Why pay more?

On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:32:42 +0200, István Szabó <[hidden email]> wrote:

>USPS is great to buy goods from US. Reasonable cost and I have never had
>any issues with them. For transceivers this should be a tracked package.
>UPS is more costly but also good.
>
>István Szabó
>HA4ZD
>
>
>
>
>On 6/2/2011 7:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
>>> I can not understand how going down to the local post
>>> office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
>>> shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
>>> but then again what do I know?
>> Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something that many of us
>> would choose to do, especially with something as delicate and valuable
>> as a ham transceiver. That's a big part of why UPS and Fed Ex exist.
>>
>> In my case, the major reason I don't want to sell internationally is the
>> matter of customs and duties, with the associated paperwork. Here it's
>> mostly ignorance of what is needed, what the procedures are, etc. I
>> might look at it differently with a ham I knew as the buyer. Nothing
>> parochial beyond ignorance. :)
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>
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Doug Turnbull

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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I have a foot in both camps living permanently in EI land since 1973 but
visiting W land and my family every summer. Most US hams would have no
idea what description or export numbers to put on a parcel of value being
sent to the EU let alone other nations. Many W, VE would continue to feel
a certain obligation once the radio was shipped and the uncertainty is not
something they want to take on. If you are fortunate enough to have a US
friend to visit ship the radio to them and pick it up on your next visit.
Of course you then have to deal with customs in the airport but you can have
your receipts with you and probably will not have too much trouble.

My personal experience with USPS is good having just received a second K3
from Elecraft in less than a weeks time though in this case I needed to use
a customs clearance service and UPS seems to do this for you automatically.
Small lower value parcels sometimes come though without any duty or even VAT
being charged but this is just luck!

I may be wrong but it seems to me that ordering direct from Elecraft is
still less expensive than purchasing other radios direct from distributors
within the EU. It is handy to be able to purchase in kit form as this
apparently means that the radio is duty free though subject to VAT. A
friend EI2JD just helped another EI get his duty back on a built ham radio
so apparently at least for EI it is possible to obtain built ham radios in
this part of EU without duty and I would suspect this applies for the whole
of the EU.

The kits are of course a bit less expensive and thus less VAT is due on
them. You might get a couple of filters without duty or VAT if shipped in
a small package but this will of course vary with the officiousness of the
carrier and country. I would expect either FedEx or UPS to always make
full charges.

Elecraft has an advantage in that it uses modular build so if you can locate
a fault to a module it is possible to just post the module back to Elecraft.
Another advantage of kits is that you are more adept at taking out modules
if needs be though so far there have been no problems here.

This is just my experience and it may change at any time.

73 Doug EI2CN formerly K4WQZ in 1960

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On 6/2/2011 10:06 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
> I can not understand how going down to the local post
> office would be a problem and if the customer pays the
> shipping why would that present a problem for the seller,
> but then again what do I know?

Shipping via the US Postal Service is not something that many of us
would choose to do, especially with something as delicate and valuable
as a ham transceiver. That's a big part of why UPS and Fed Ex exist.

In my case, the major reason I don't want to sell internationally is the
matter of customs and duties, with the associated paperwork. Here it's
mostly ignorance of what is needed, what the procedures are, etc. I
might look at it differently with a ham I knew as the buyer. Nothing
parochial beyond ignorance. :)

73, Jim K9YC

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k6dgw

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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For some of the big contests, you both ARE foreign countries :-)

Fred K6DGW
Auburn
California Republic [it says so on our Bear Flag]

"4 out of 3 people have difficulty with fractions."

On 6/2/2011 10:04 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:
> The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance. In our case, sellers
> seem to be completely unaware that Alaska and Hawaii are part of the 50
> states. They think we are a foreign country.
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Joseph Trombino, Jr

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My biggest concern in shipping rigs overseas is the insurance angle.

When I sent a rig to Australia I was told by the USPS that the insurance I had purchased for the rig would only be good up the the shores of the U.S......once the package left CONUS the insurance would not cover any damage or loss.

That is the only package I have sent overseas so I don't know about UPS or FedEx regarding their insurance policies.

So if one were to ship a K3 valued at circa $3K to an overseas address using USPS Priority mail and it got lost or damaged while in overseas transit what does the seller or the purchaser do???

Do UPS or FedEx offer insurance that will cover overseas mailings??

Does Elecraft have any input given that they ship all over the world???

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Merv Schweigert

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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Thanks Jim, you hit the nail on the head, I had a hard time convincing
one gent that the
postage stamp was good to Hawaii, he thought mailing a envelope to here
was even
higher priced. Flat rate priority boxes are the same cost to any of
the 50 states, but
then I find also a lot of hams do not even know about flat rate boxes.

Merv K9FD/KH6 ex KH7C

> The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance. In our case, sellers
> seem to be completely unaware that Alaska and Hawaii are part of the 50
> states. They think we are a foreign country. Some of them don't even
> understand that we use the same money! We have all the same services,
> the post office goes everywhere, standard US banks, Paypal, etc.
> Fedex and UPS have service to most locations (not so much in the true
> bush) including both air and ground delivery.
>
>
> It is actually easier to convince some people that I live in a 2-story
> igloo and mush a dog team to work, which they love to believe
> :-) than the real facts, which are that I live in a 4200 Sq
> Ft home of standard frame construction and drive an Audi A8 on the
> freeway when I go shopping. OK, the A8 is 12 years old, but still . .
> . Heck, we got satellite TV , Starbucks, Gap stores, TGI Fridays, an
> IMAX theatre, and even a Costco store or three.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
> Anchorage
>
>
>
> Phil Hystad wrote:
>
>> One reason is that sending a package in CONUS (continental US) is a lot easier and generally cheaper then sending it to other countries or even to Alaska or Hawaii.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
>>> private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.
>>>
>>> Why...?
>>>
>>> We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
>>> problem please?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Phil Hystad-3

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But, it is more expensive to send packages to Alaska and Hawaii. And of course Alaska and Hawaii also have their own DXCC entity identifier separate from the lower-48 states of the US.

On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:

> The problem, generally speaking, is ignorance. In our case, sellers seem to be completely unaware that Alaska and Hawaii are part of the 50 states. They think we are a foreign country. Some of them don't even understand that we use the same money! We have all the same services, the post office goes everywhere, standard US banks, Paypal, etc. Fedex and UPS have service to most locations (not so much in the true bush) including both air and ground delivery.
>
> It is actually easier to convince some people that I live in a 2-story igloo and mush a dog team to work, which they love to believe :-) than the real facts, which are that I live in a 4200 Sq Ft home of standard frame construction and drive an Audi A8 on the freeway when I go shopping. OK, the A8 is 12 years old, but still . . . Heck, we got satellite TV , Starbucks, Gap stores, TGI Fridays, an IMAX theatre, and even a Costco store or three.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
> Anchorage
>
>
>
> Phil Hystad wrote:
>> One reason is that sending a package in CONUS (continental US) is a lot easier and generally cheaper then sending it to other countries or even to Alaska or Hawaii.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
>>> private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.
>>>
>>> Why...?
>>>
>>> We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
>>> problem please?
>>>
>>>
>>

daleputnam

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft rigs

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I've shipped to many other countries, not any where the number of countries, nor item shipped as Elecraft does, however, one strong deterrant is having to deal with lost, strayed, or undelivered items. Months of time and many hours of effort, will be spent, in an attempt to correct, or find the reason for non-delivery. Not to mention that insurance nor delivery tracking is available into many countries. And in some countries, mail theft happens, check on sending qsl cards to and from....
I'm just elated that I'm not in charge of shipping for Elecraft.
Shipping international is simply a different set of rules, and must be managed differently than the local, normal mailings.

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

.
>
> When I sent a rig to Australia I was told by the USPS that the insurance I had purchased for the rig would only be good up the the shores of the U.S......once the package left CONUS the insurance would not cover any damage or loss.

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Don Wilhelm-4

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It is not necessarily more expensive to ship USPS Priority Mail to AK
and HI. If the parcel is lightweight, use regular Priority Mail, and if
it is heavy, use Priority Mail Flat Rate - no change in the price no
matter what the shipping zone. Weigh the package and go to www.USPS.com
and obtain the amount for each option - it is not complicated at all.

The biggest problem with overseas US Mail shipments is the limit each
country places on insurance. As I recall, the maximum insurance I can
use to Canada is $700, and several other countries are substantially
lower. If the parcel has substantial value, use UPS, FedEx or DHL.
Most shipping centers will assist with the customs forms,

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/2/2011 2:29 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> But, it is more expensive to send packages to Alaska and Hawaii. And of course Alaska and Hawaii also have their own DXCC entity identifier separate from the lower-48 states of the US.
>
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Eric Champine

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Hi all.
I shipped two boxes with assorted small stuff that they needed to my nieces
in Africa via the USPS and I was told that my insurance and
delivery confirmation was only good in the US. I still shipped it anyway.
Both of the boxes never showed up and they didn't get what they wanted and I
was out a small amount of cash. Now imagine shipping $1,500.00 bucks USD of
ham equipment and having that happen. That is one reason when I sell
something it is always only in the US. Sorry to everyone else. Just not
worth the headache to me, I have not tried UPS or FedEx yet to see if it
gets through.

73 de W2EEC

Eric
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Doug Turnbull

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Eric,
I believe that insurance does cover packages shipped to the EU, African
countries may be more risky perhaps because of poverty or corruption.
Having said this your point is that made by others that the average guy just
does not know the rules nor codes for international shipping of expensive
radio equipment. This might make a useful article for QST but most people
would be bored by the topic. It is generally the overseas operators who
suffer as the US is a large market with attractive prices for radio gear, in
Europe we envy the QST prices.

73 Doug EI2CN

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Hi all.
I shipped two boxes with assorted small stuff that they needed to my nieces
in Africa via the USPS and I was told that my insurance and
delivery confirmation was only good in the US. I still shipped it anyway.
Both of the boxes never showed up and they didn't get what they wanted and I
was out a small amount of cash. Now imagine shipping $1,500.00 bucks USD of
ham equipment and having that happen. That is one reason when I sell
something it is always only in the US. Sorry to everyone else. Just not
worth the headache to me, I have not tried UPS or FedEx yet to see if it
gets through.

73 de W2EEC

Eric
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Mike K2MK

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

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Hi Ray,

Paperwork is not the problem. If you pay for the shipment on-line you can fill out the simple paperwork there as well. The real problems with international shipments are cost and insurability.

USPS is reasonable if you can ship by International First Class Mail. Unfortunately you can't purchase insurance so this not good for an expensive item. You can send it as Registered which is highly reliable within the USA but once it leaves our air space all bets are off. I shipped a 3 pound ebay item (value $250) to Israel with registration and it had not arrived after a month. I started a trace 2 months ago and still have not heard any results. So I had to reimburse the buyer and if the trace comes back as lost I "might" be able to collect a small amount of money. I'm not holding my breath.

You can use USPS International Priority Mail but the limit of insurance is only $650. Not good enough for an amateur rig. And then if it isn't delivered how easy will it be to collect the insurance??? And how long will it take to trace the shipment before they settle the claim??? The buyer will want his money back right away.

The best USPS has to offer is Global Express Guaranteed. It has a $2500 insurance limit. I priced up a 10 pound package to the UK with $2000 insurance and the shipping cost is $155.

UPS is probably the most reliable service since they have their own people at the delivery end but the cost will be higher still. The same 10 pound package in a 12 x 12 x 12 inch box, insured at $2000, would cost $224 to ship to the UK.

Is it worth the hassle when there are buyers in the US? I don't think so.

73,
Mike K2MK

Ray G3XLG wrote

I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered for
private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.

Why...?

We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's the
problem please?

I just bought a kit & accessories direct from Elecraft 2 weeks ago, it was
delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
Europe.

Just interested .

73

Ray G3XLG

Bob Naumann W5OV

Re: Private Sales of used Elecraft Rigs

As one who ships expensive amateur equipment everywhere around the globe
on a daily basis as my job, I have a couple of comments.

First, using Priority Mail to KH6 or KL7 costs the same as to any other
U.S. destination - so the assertion that it costs more to ship there *via
the post office* is not true.

Second, the best service to use from the Post Office for international
shipping is called "Express Mail International". It is still called "EMS"
in many other countries. The insurance amount varies depending on what
country you are shipping to. The tracking for this service is about the
best you can get from the Post Office. It ain't great, but it's the best
they offer.

You do not have to pay for the shipment online but you can still fill out
the customs paperwork on line. I highly recommend this. It saves time at
the Post Office as the clerk will not have to type all of the information
about your shipment. It creates 5 copies of the customs form. Take all 5
with you, cut the page where they tell you to - sign and date all 5
copies.

They scan a bar code on the customs forms you printed at home, and the
data populates their screen. You will need to fill out the red/white/blue
Express Mail label which you can get at the Post Office. This is nothing
more than names and addresses.

Most clerks at the Post Office will help you complete the forms. Honestly,
this should not present anyone here with any difficulty whatsoever.

Without question, UPS Express Saver service is the best way to go. The
cost will be higher, but you get real tracking, real insurance and they
deliver within 2 or 3 business days most anywhere in the world. You can
create shipments on the UPS.com website and check rates. Expedited service
is slightly lower cost, but can take up to a week or so to get delivery.
The term "expedited" is a misnomer as the truth is that it means
not-expedited.

73,

Bob W5OV

> Hi Ray,
>
> Paperwork is not the problem. If you pay for the shipment on-line you can
> fill out the simple paperwork there as well. The real problems with
> international shipments are cost and insurability.
>
> USPS is reasonable if you can ship by International First Class Mail.
> Unfortunately you can't purchase insurance so this not good for an
> expensive
> item. You can send it as Registered which is highly reliable within the
> USA
> but once it leaves our air space all bets are off. I shipped a 3 pound
> ebay
> item (value $250) to Israel with registration and it had not arrived after
> a
> month. I started a trace 2 months ago and still have not heard any
> results.
> So I had to reimburse the buyer and if the trace comes back as lost I
> "might" be able to collect a small amount of money. I'm not holding my
> breath.
>
> You can use USPS International Priority Mail but the limit of insurance is
> only $650. Not good enough for an amateur rig. And then if it isn't
> delivered how easy will it be to collect the insurance??? And how long
> will
> it take to trace the shipment before they settle the claim??? The buyer
> will
> want his money back right away.
>
> The best USPS has to offer is Global Express Guaranteed. It has a $2500
> insurance limit. I priced up a 10 pound package to the UK with $2000
> insurance and the shipping cost is $155.
>
> UPS is probably the most reliable service since they have their own people
> at the delivery end but the cost will be higher still. The same 10 pound
> package in a 12 x 12 x 12 inch box, insured at $2000, would cost $224 to
> ship to the UK.
>
> Is it worth the hassle when there are buyers in the US? I don't think so.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
> Ray G3XLG wrote:
>>
>> I am intrigued, I've noticed that when various Elecraft rigs are offered
>> for
>> private sale on this forum they invariably say " Continental USA" only.
>>
>> Why...?
>>
>> We Europeans also have PayPal, Visa, Bank Transfers etc etc so what's
>> the
>> problem please?
>>
>> I just bought a kit & accessories direct from Elecraft 2 weeks ago, it
>> was
>> delivered within 7 days and they didn't have a problem with selling to
>> Europe.
>>
>> Just interested .
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ray G3XLG
>>
>
>
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