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Elecraft SSB Net results (9-27-09)

Phil and Christina
We kept our frequency on 14.314 MHz again today to try to dodge some QRM
that has been persistent on 14.316 for some people.  We had 14 participants
including net control and ran for 14 minutes.  The discussions were about
difficulty getting "stereo" out of the headphones for one station and help
with mic setup for a Heil HM10 for another.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

W0OGH Larry AZ K3 763
NZ0T Bill KS K3 1502
AB1KC Bruce RI K3 2674
W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
K4SO Mark VA K3 2861
K1LC Bud MA K3 788
KC4RN Gerald NJ K3 528
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
AI4VZ George GA K3 2412
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826

Thanks to everybody who checked in.  Have a good week.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (9-27-09)

Jim Wiley-2


The "QRM" on 14.316 is unlikely to go away, ever.  This is the 4th
harmonic of 3.579 MHz, the TV color burst frequency, and a popular
choice for oscillators in all sorts of consumer and office devices (not
necessarily TV  receivers).  This has been a problem on 20 meters for at
least 30 years that I know of, perhaps longer. Also, because many
devices that use this frequency derive it from a square-wave oscillator
(a couple of gates). the harmonics of these devices are often
prodigious.   Another considerations is that  because some designs need
to have this frequency only approximately correct, it  is no surprise to
find some units running up to a few hundred Hertz plus or minus from
3.579, and thus (after multiplication by harmonics) hams end up with a
broad band of QRM that can be 2 or 3 kHz from 14.316, or anywhere in
between.


Are all these sources "illegal", and thus covered by part 15 rules?  
Yes, they are.   This is part of what manufacturers "certify" on those
Part 15 labels you see on so many items of consumer electronics.  
Technically, the owner of the device is at fault, and could be made to
cease and desist using the offending item.   However, then we have the
real world.  Identifying, finding and fixing what could be several dozen
such sources in your immediate vicinity can be and for practical
purposes is an unsurmountable problem.  The FCC literally cannot help
you here, as much as they might want to. They have neither the budget or
time to solve literally tens or even hundreds of millions (no
exaggeration here!) of these cases.   Pandora is well and truly out of
the box on this one.


I would respectfully suggest a permanent change of net frequency to
something less likely to have this problem.


- Jim, KL7CC



Phil and Christina wrote:
> We kept our frequency on 14.314 MHz again today to try to dodge some QRM
> that has been persistent on 14.316 for some people.
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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (9-27-09)

Larry Godek

 I didn't hear any noise on 316 today with my beam pointed NW from here in AZ.  Just a group of guys  who were operating there and they even mentioned  that the Elecraft net would be starting  shortly and that they wanted to be off the frequency by net start time.  Very nice of them but then again they were Canadians and they are known for their courtesy.  At least the ones i know.

Larry
W0OGH
K3 #763

  -------------- Original message from Jim Wiley <[hidden email]>: --------------


>
>
> The "QRM" on 14.316 is unlikely to go away, ever.  This is the 4th
> harmonic of 3.579 MHz, the TV color burst frequency, and a popular
> choice for oscillators in all sorts of consumer and office devices (not
> necessarily TV  receivers).  This has been a problem on 20 meters for at
> least 30 years that I know of, perhaps longer. Also, because many
> devices that use this frequency derive it from a square-wave oscillator
> (a couple of gates). the harmonics of these devices are often
> prodigious.   Another considerations is that  because some designs need
> to have this frequency only approximately correct, it  is no surprise to
> find some units running up to a few hundred Hertz plus or minus from
> 3.579, and thus (after multiplication by harmonics) hams end up with a
> broad band of QRM that can be 2 or 3 kHz from 14.316, or anywhere in
> between.
>
>
> Are all these sources "illegal", and thus covered by part 15 rules?  
> Yes, they are.   This is part of what manufacturers "certify" on those
> Part 15 labels you see on so many items of consumer electronics.  
> Technically, the owner of the device is at fault, and could be made to
> cease and desist using the offending item.   However, then we have the
> real world.  Identifying, finding and fixing what could be several dozen
> such sources in your immediate vicinity can be and for practical
> purposes is an unsurmountable problem.  The FCC literally cannot help
> you here, as much as they might want to. They have neither the budget or
> time to solve literally tens or even hundreds of millions (no
> exaggeration here!) of these cases.   Pandora is well and truly out of
> the box on this one.
>
>
> I would respectfully suggest a permanent change of net frequency to
> something less likely to have this problem.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> Phil and Christina wrote:
> > We kept our frequency on 14.314 MHz again today to try to dodge some QRM
> > that has been persistent on 14.316 for some people.
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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (9-27-09)

Phil and Christina
The group on 14.316 before our net time is always nice and leaves the
frequency by 1800Z.  One of the regulars there, KA7GKN, helps keep that
happening.  A very courteous operator.

Since 14316 is the 4th harmonic of the 3579 TV color burst frequency, I
think that it makes sense to move from that spot to 14314, which appears to
have fewer issues.

73,

Phil, NS7P

-----Original Message-----
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To: [hidden email]
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 I didn't hear any noise on 316 today with my beam pointed NW from here in
AZ.  Just a group of guys  who were operating there and they even mentioned
that the Elecraft net would be starting  shortly and that they wanted to be
off the frequency by net start time.  Very nice of them but then again they
were Canadians and they are known for their courtesy.  At least the ones i
know.

Larry
W0OGH
K3 #763

  -------------- Original message from Jim Wiley
<[hidden email]>: --------------


>
>
> The "QRM" on 14.316 is unlikely to go away, ever.  This is the 4th
> harmonic of 3.579 MHz, the TV color burst frequency, and a popular
> choice for oscillators in all sorts of consumer and office devices (not
> necessarily TV  receivers).  This has been a problem on 20 meters for at
> least 30 years that I know of, perhaps longer. Also, because many
> devices that use this frequency derive it from a square-wave oscillator
> (a couple of gates). the harmonics of these devices are often
> prodigious.   Another considerations is that  because some designs need
> to have this frequency only approximately correct, it  is no surprise to
> find some units running up to a few hundred Hertz plus or minus from
> 3.579, and thus (after multiplication by harmonics) hams end up with a
> broad band of QRM that can be 2 or 3 kHz from 14.316, or anywhere in
> between.
>
>
> Are all these sources "illegal", and thus covered by part 15 rules?
> Yes, they are.   This is part of what manufacturers "certify" on those
> Part 15 labels you see on so many items of consumer electronics.
> Technically, the owner of the device is at fault, and could be made to
> cease and desist using the offending item.   However, then we have the
> real world.  Identifying, finding and fixing what could be several dozen
> such sources in your immediate vicinity can be and for practical
> purposes is an unsurmountable problem.  The FCC literally cannot help
> you here, as much as they might want to. They have neither the budget or
> time to solve literally tens or even hundreds of millions (no
> exaggeration here!) of these cases.   Pandora is well and truly out of
> the box on this one.
>
>
> I would respectfully suggest a permanent change of net frequency to
> something less likely to have this problem.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> Phil and Christina wrote:
> > We kept our frequency on 14.314 MHz again today to try to dodge some QRM
> > that has been persistent on 14.316 for some people.
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Elecraft SSB Net results (10-4-09)

Phil and Christina
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The California QSO Party was providing lots of QRM around our regular
frequency today.  I opened on 14.314 MHz, but quickly announced a QSY to
14.317, which was quieter but still noisy.  Anyway, there were 10 of us on
14.317.  We ran for 8 minutes there.  Afetr we concluded, I went down to
14.314 and heard Windy, KM5Q, looking for check-ins.  There were 2 more that
checked in there.  The total time was 23 minutes across the 2 frequencies.
There was a bit of discussion about mic setup and pre-beta firmware.  Thanks
to everyone who put up with the QRM to check-in.  Here is the list of
participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
NZ0T Bill KS K3 1502
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
WB6HPF Al CA K3 974
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
W0CZ Ken ND K3 457
KC2GDS Len AZ FT817 at 5 w
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
WA9JHH Dave IN K3 3301
AC0NM Glenn WA K3 2843
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (10-11-09)

Phil and Christina
Wow, it was the best net we have had in awhile. There were 28 of us, and we
ran for 33 minutes.  In addition to all of the stateside stations, we had
Andy, M0CHK, from the UK and Peter, ZL1PWD, from New Zealand!  That spread
us across a lot of time zones!  The most unusual weather was 6 inches of
snow yesterday in Nebraska (KA0NCR).

The signals were generally OK, although a few required relays to get
through.  The discussions were on firmware versions and possibly higher
receiver noise levels in the most recent few.  Thanks to everyone who
checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
AK5U Frederick TX K3 3246
K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
W7ZT Bill AZ FT817 @ 5 watts
AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
KD5ZLB Edwin LA K3 3147
W0FM Terry MO K3 474
W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
K1BBM John MA K3 2579
M0CHK Andy UK K3 1701
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
K4SO Mark VA K3 2861
W6VY Bob CA K3 2765
K4LAY Bob FL K3 006
K4DJW/M Dave MD IC706
KA4ZPV Russ GA TX: FT900; RX: SX101
W0CZ Ken ND K3 457
WQ7X Mark AZ K3 3372
AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
WB6HPF Al CA K3 974
AA5EZ Travis AR K3 3327
AE6RH Ron CA K3 1997
AB9V Mike IN K3 398
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (10-18-09)

Phil and Christina
Another good net inspite of some QRM. There were 22 of us, and we ran for 23
minutes.  The signals were generally OK, although a few required relays to
get
through.  The discussions were on audio quality checks for several stations.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

K6UO Norm CA K3 755
K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
K4SO Mark VA K3 2861
KD5ZLB/M Edwin LA K3 3147
KD1NA Dave MA K3/K2 934/5779
AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
AE6RH Ron CA K3 1997
W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
N1LQ Dave MA K3 371
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
N5RMS AL TX K3 3245
N5ZM Earl AR K3 3223
AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
K7SJ Roger WA K3 75
N4LEC Larry GA Yaesu
KB3FBR Joe PA K2 6178
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
KM4VX Ron NC K2 6724
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (11-8-09)

Phil and Christina
The net was challenging today with spotty propagation and a fair amount of
QRM.  There were 13 of us, and we ran for 11 minutes.  The only discussion
was a question to ask if anyone had a W2 up and running yet.  No one did.
We did have Peter, ZL1PWD, check in from New Zealand (off the back of my
quad antenna)!
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
KD5ZLB Edwin LA K3 3147
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
KU4AF John NC K3 3517
AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
KD0HII Brian IA IC756Pro, awaiting his new K3
KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Phil and Christina
We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed better
than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
W0FM Terry MO K3 474
VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
K8EAG Gil MI K3 99
W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560
N0QO Ken CO K3 1047
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
N3YSA George MD K3 2163
K0AWU Bill MN K3 3460
N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
KA1OZ Dick MA K3 859
W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
AA5SEZ Travis AR K3 3327
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
K5LAD Jim OK K3
AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
KA5YPU Chris MS K3 2344
N0EHQ/m Ed MO FT857 (K3 at home)
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Philippe Trottet
Dears,
I would like to participate but considering the propagation between USA
and UAE the schedule is not adapted.

Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF

Bst 73's
Philippe
A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)

K3 #3616


Philippe TROTTET
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
 
United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
International Humanitarian City
Office Building Nยบ3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
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>>> "Phil and Christina" <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
better
than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
W0FM Terry MO K3 474
VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
K8EAG Gil MI K3 99
W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560
N0QO Ken CO K3 1047
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
N3YSA George MD K3 2163
K0AWU Bill MN K3 3460
N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
KA1OZ Dick MA K3 859
W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
AA5SEZ Travis AR K3 3327
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
K5LAD Jim OK K3
AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
KA5YPU Chris MS K3 2344
N0EHQ/m Ed MO FT857 (K3 at home)
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Kevin Rock
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There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You may wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
   73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS


-----Original Message-----

>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM
>To: [hidden email], Phil and Christina <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Dears,
>I would like to participate but considering the propagation between USA
>and UAE the schedule is not adapted.
>
>Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
>International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
>month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
>Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF
>
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)
>
>K3 #3616
>
>
>Philippe TROTTET
>Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
>
>United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
>International Humanitarian City
>Office Building Nยบ3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
>Doha Street
>PO BOX: 506013
>DUBAI - U.A.E.
>
>HQ Ext: 7120
>Vsat: xx 41 22 7120
>External:
>+971 4 3601753
>+41 22 739 7120
>Mobile: +971 504531756
>Website: www.unhcr.org
>
>>>> "Phil and Christina" <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
>We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
>better
>than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
>Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.
>
>Station Name QTH Rig S/N
>
>W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
>KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
>W0FM Terry MO K3 474
>VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
>K8EAG Gil MI K3 99
>W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
>AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
>K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560
>N0QO Ken CO K3 1047
>W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
>K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
>W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
>AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
>W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
>KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
>N3YSA George MD K3 2163
>K0AWU Bill MN K3 3460
>N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
>W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
>KA1OZ Dick MA K3 859
>W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
>W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
>W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
>KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
>AA5SEZ Travis AR K3 3327
>ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
>K5LAD Jim OK K3
>AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
>KA5YPU Chris MS K3 2344
>N0EHQ/m Ed MO FT857 (K3 at home)
>W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
>NS7P Phil OR K3 1826
>
>
>73,
>
>Phil, NS7P
>
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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Philippe Trottet
Hi Kevin,
I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world wide
Hams.
Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi !
I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
and will send a request on their website.

You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is it
still active ?
The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
if they are enrolled on it.
Hope to contact you as well
Bst 73's
Philippe
A65BI

Note:
As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved for
Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to one
year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .



>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You may
wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
   73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS


-----Original Message-----
>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM
>To: [hidden email], Phil and Christina <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Dears,
>I would like to participate but considering the propagation between
USA

>and UAE the schedule is not adapted.
>
>Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
>International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
>month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
>Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF
>
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)
>
>K3 #3616
>
>
>Philippe TROTTET
>Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
>
>United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
>International Humanitarian City
>Office Building Nยบ3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
>Doha Street
>PO BOX: 506013
>DUBAI - U.A.E.
>
>HQ Ext: 7120
>Vsat: xx 41 22 7120
>External:
>+971 4 3601753
>+41 22 739 7120
>Mobile: +971 504531756
>Website: www.unhcr.org
>
>>>> "Phil and Christina" <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
>We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
>better
>than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
>Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.
>
>Station Name QTH Rig S/N
>
>W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
>KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
>W0FM Terry MO K3 474
>VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
>K8EAG Gil MI K3 99
>W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
>AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
>K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560
>N0QO Ken CO K3 1047
>W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
>K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
>W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
>AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
>W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
>KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
>N3YSA George MD K3 2163
>K0AWU Bill MN K3 3460
>N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
>W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
>KA1OZ Dick MA K3 859
>W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
>W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
>W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
>KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
>AA5SEZ Travis AR K3 3327
>ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
>K5LAD Jim OK K3
>AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
>KA5YPU Chris MS K3 2344
>N0EHQ/m Ed MO FT857 (K3 at home)
>W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
>NS7P Phil OR K3 1826
>
>
>73,
>
>Phil, NS7P
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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Kevin Rock
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Hello Philippe,
   There is an archive of old Elecraft Reflector email.  I am sure there is someone out there who can help you find the Iraq Elecraft Net listing.  I am unsure of how long ago it was but at least three or four years ago.  
   Congratulations on your new radio.  I am sure you will have fun with it.  From UAE you should be able to find a lot of nice DX unavailable to me at this current point in our sunspot cycle.  I have this really big ocean to my west and south which cuts down on contacts quite a bit.  If we could make it a little narrower I could hit further into Asia more easily.  
   GL and 73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS

-----Original Message-----

>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:02 AM
>To: Kevin Rock <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Hi Kevin,
>I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
>Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world wide
>Hams.
>Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi !
>I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
>and will send a request on their website.
>
>You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is it
>still active ?
>The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
>if they are enrolled on it.
>Hope to contact you as well
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI
>
>Note:
>As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved for
>Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to one
>year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .
>
>
>
>>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
>There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You may
>wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
>   73,
>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>>Sent: Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM
>>To: [hidden email], Phil and Christina <[hidden email]>
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>>
>>Dears,
>>I would like to participate but considering the propagation between
>USA
>>and UAE the schedule is not adapted.
>>
>>Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
>>International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
>>month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
>>Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF
>>
>>Bst 73's
>>Philippe
>>A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)
>>
>>K3 #3616
>>
>>
>>Philippe TROTTET
>>Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
>>
>>United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
>>International Humanitarian City
>>Office Building Nยบ3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
>>Doha Street
>>PO BOX: 506013
>>DUBAI - U.A.E.
>>
>>HQ Ext: 7120
>>Vsat: xx 41 22 7120
>>External:
>>+971 4 3601753
>>+41 22 739 7120
>>Mobile: +971 504531756
>>Website: www.unhcr.org
>>
>>>>> "Phil and Christina" <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
>>We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
>>better
>>than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
>>Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.
>>
>>Station Name QTH Rig S/N
>>
>>W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
>>KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
>>W0FM Terry MO K3 474
>>VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
>>K8EAG Gil MI K3 99
>>W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
>>AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
>>K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560
>>N0QO Ken CO K3 1047
>>W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
>>K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
>>W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
>>AD5SX Paul NM Jupiter
>>W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603
>>KA5KKT Dick KY K3 1030
>>N3YSA George MD K3 2163
>>K0AWU Bill MN K3 3460
>>N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
>>W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
>>KA1OZ Dick MA K3 859
>>W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673
>>W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
>>W9DVM Phil FL K3 1605
>>KG4OEB Charles GA K3 3509
>>AA5SEZ Travis AR K3 3327
>>ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
>>K5LAD Jim OK K3
>>AE6IC Fred CA K3 2241
>>KA5YPU Chris MS K3 2344
>>N0EHQ/m Ed MO FT857 (K3 at home)
>>W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
>>NS7P Phil OR K3 1826
>>
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Phil, NS7P
>>
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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Philippe Trottet
Hi Kevin,
Yesterday W2  on 20m was 59+ on my area, 18:25GMT.
No directional antenna on my side due to local constraints, only a 40m
DELTA loop sloping 45ยบ, top feeded with an 4:1 balun from Bob KZ5R
(LLC-balun design)...located on the top of a 32 stairs building, less
1km from the sea.
Bst 73's
Philippe


>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 9:11 >>>
Hello Philippe,
   There is an archive of old Elecraft Reflector email.  I am sure
there is someone out there who can help you find the Iraq Elecraft Net
listing.  I am unsure of how long ago it was but at least three or four
years ago.  
   Congratulations on your new radio.  I am sure you will have fun with
it.  From UAE you should be able to find a lot of nice DX unavailable to
me at this current point in our sunspot cycle.  I have this really big
ocean to my west and south which cuts down on contacts quite a bit.  If
we could make it a little narrower I could hit further into Asia more
easily.  
   GL and 73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS

-----Original Message-----
>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:02 AM
>To: Kevin Rock <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Hi Kevin,
>I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
>Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world
wide
>Hams.
>Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi !
>I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
>and will send a request on their website.
>
>You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is
it

>still active ?
>The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
>if they are enrolled on it.
>Hope to contact you as well
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI
>
>Note:
>As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved
for
>Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to
one
>year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .
>
>
>
>>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
>There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You
may
>wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
>   73,
>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>

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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

Phil and Christina
When we have an east coast US station with a potent signal/good antennas, we can try having them listen for your area.  That might help you check in, but you probably won't hear most of the net.  Somewhat Like Peter, ZL1PWD, who checks in sometimes.

73,

Phil, NS7P


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Philippe Trottet
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:32 PM
To: Kevin Rock; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)


Hi Kevin,
Yesterday W2  on 20m was 59+ on my area, 18:25GMT.
No directional antenna on my side due to local constraints, only a 40m
DELTA loop sloping 45ยบ, top feeded with an 4:1 balun from Bob KZ5R
(LLC-balun design)...located on the top of a 32 stairs building, less
1km from the sea.
Bst 73's
Philippe


>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 9:11 >>>
Hello Philippe,
   There is an archive of old Elecraft Reflector email.  I am sure
there is someone out there who can help you find the Iraq Elecraft Net
listing.  I am unsure of how long ago it was but at least three or four
years ago.  
   Congratulations on your new radio.  I am sure you will have fun with
it.  From UAE you should be able to find a lot of nice DX unavailable to
me at this current point in our sunspot cycle.  I have this really big
ocean to my west and south which cuts down on contacts quite a bit.  If
we could make it a little narrower I could hit further into Asia more
easily.  
   GL and 73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS

-----Original Message-----
>From: Philippe Trottet <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:02 AM
>To: Kevin Rock <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Hi Kevin,
>I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
>Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world
wide
>Hams.
>Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi !
>I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
>and will send a request on their website.
>
>You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is
it

>still active ?
>The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
>if they are enrolled on it.
>Hope to contact you as well
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI
>
>Note:
>As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved
for
>Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to
one
>year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .
>
>
>
>>>> Kevin Rock <[hidden email]> 16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
>There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You
may
>wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
>   73,
>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>

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Elecraft SSB Net results (11-29-09)

Phil and Christina
In reply to this post by Phil and Christina
The net today had 23 participants but was troubled by QRM from 14.313MHz.
The QSO on that adjacent frequency had said that is was wrapping up before
1800Z, but evidently stayed on that frequency after our net started.  We
shifted up to 14.315 MHz part way through the net, but still were troubled
by the QRM.  It seemed malicious at times with carriers on top of us.  I
readily nulled them out and kept going.  Peter, ZL1PWD, is becomming a
regular.  He breaks me on the back of my beam.  Good job, Peter.  Our
discussions were on audio "growling" and its cures.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
W4WFB Roy NC K2 2225
K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
WB8RAE Bill NY K3 2389
KE4IMN Jim FL K3 3307
KB4SJE Rick KY K3 2593
W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
AI4VZ George GA K3 2412
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
N7LQE Jack AZ K3 3432
W4LT Lou FL K3 3192
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
K4CCH Charlie GA K3 3509
AE5JD Bart TX K3 2106
N2YC John NY K2 5949
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
AL0F Tim AZ S-Line
W8SOO Ken MI K3 1972
KB9TNZ John IL
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (12-6-09)

Phil and Christina
The net today had 17 participants, but many signals were not that strong.
We only ran for 13 minutes, and there were no discussions.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

W3HVG Pat PA K1 834
AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
K4GCJ Gary NC K3 1597
W0RSR Mike CO K2 5767
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
VE3QF Tony ON K3 137
AA2L Ed CO K3 3295
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
N3XPD Mike PA K2 4935
KD5ZLB Edwin LA K3 3147
K4CCH Charles GA K3 3509
AI4VZ George GA K3 2412
W1DFB Don MA K3 2937
N0ALK/m Rich KS FT857
W8OV Dave TX K3 3139
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (12-13-09)

Phil and Christina
The net today had 19 participants. Signals were generally good.  We only ran
for 14 minutes, and the only discussions were on the lack of signals in the
10 meter contest.  Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of
participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N

K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447
AB2TC Ken NY K3 82
K4GCJ Garry NC K3 1597
K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
AA5EZ Travis AR K3 3327
K4TM Cary VA K3 3491
W0FM Terry MO K3 474
NA0F Larry MN K3 1953
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
AI4VZ George GA K3 2412
W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139
W0ZPT Zane MN K2 747
K4CCH Charles GA K3 3509
N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
KB3FBR Joe PA K2 6178
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Elecraft SSB Net results (12-20-09)

Phil and Christina
The net today had 19 participants again. Signals were generally good.  We
ran for 20 minutes, and the discussions were on the new DSP board and audio
reports.  Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of
participants.

Station Name QTH Rig S/N


W5ETJ Gary TX K3 3227
KD0R David KS K2 6708 (QRP)
K4GCJ Garry NC K3 1597
K4SO Mark VA K3 2861
KD0HII Brian IA K3 3672
W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618
N9YKE Don WI K3 2505
N3XPD Mike PA K2 4935
KM5Q Windy NM K3 764
K8MBY Phil OH K3 609
W6VY Bob CA K3 1590
W8GX Keith OH K3 3563
N7HTS Gary WY K2 6113 (QRP?)
W8YMO Harry OH K3 166
ZL1PWD Peter NZ K3 139 (stronger than usual)
KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185
W0NTA Dick CO K3 1208
K4CCH Charles GA K3 3509
NS7P Phil OR K3 1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: Elecraft SSB Net results (12-20-09)

Dave, W8OV
Phil, the Reflector is getting out of control.  While waiting for the
SSB net to begin I began reading mail on the Reflector.  When I next
looked at the time, and listened, the net was over.  I need a Q-signal
for Reflector interference, say QRI, perhaps.

Sorry I didn't make it,

Dave, W8OV

On 12/20/2009 9:52 PM, Phil and Christina wrote:
> The net today had 19 participants again.
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